The Deep Self

That’s Terrence Brannon’s “Black Beauty” as he likes to call it.

 

 

 

Yes, once again Black is Beautiful. Feast your eyes:
https://picasaweb.google.com/thequietcenter/BlackBeauty?feat=directlink

As someone who likes to build things but has never built a tank, here’s my humble opinion on it… and this applies to all DIY tank projects:If you like to have a hand in creating the awesome time-space portal we call the float tank, and it will be a labor of love for you, then in general I would say a tank which costs $1700 to build is a fine project idea. But .. a) what’s the value of your labor (+$1000 at least)?

 

 

 

what do you mean value of labor? you mean the cost for time as opposed to parts? It took 17 days total this first time with several delays to order parts. Once all parts are ordered I could do it in a day the next time.

b) no offense to our good man Terrence, but that thing is pretty damn ugly

 

 

 

You are definitely entitled to your subjective judgement. No more can be said about that 😉

and a tank should be a pleasure to look at, i.e. you shouldn’t feel like you are an egg roll in a giant to-go container from a Chinese place in the mall, c) you’ll spend hours and hours asking questions on boards about troubleshooting,

 

 

 

I have no issues with helping those with questions and I  would upgrade the plans to make things more clear each time.

d) Terrence is still probably tweaking his design.

 

 

 

arent we all. yes

Finally, Terrence posted a video of one his first floats in the tank and before he entered he said something like “Oh wait, I need to turn this off so I don’t electrocute myself”.

 

 

 

those words were uttered right here –
and there were 2 levels of defense against electrocution at that point:

• the GFCI plug that the heaters we plugged into
• the safety mechanism within the JBJ heater itself

But I do turn them off to give myself a sense of security. That was a sarcastic off-the-cuff comment. I wouldnt put myself in jeopardy like that. I’m very fixated on my physical body.

Those words should never have to be uttered!!!

 

 

 

it is something of bad press I suppose. And the video presentation could be much better

I’m hoping Terrence can report on exactly what he was referring to.Finally, If you are in the USA, you can often find a used Samadhi or Oasis tank – both proven designs

 

 

 

– for not much more and they offer continued tech support (to a reasonable degree with used tanks, I suppose). And you can always sell a Samadhi or an Oasis later on if you have to, whereas you’d probably have to pay someone to take the BB off your hands.

 

 

 

the main expense in the used tank market is crating and shipping. The Black Beauty is one leg of a focus towards putting tanks in the hands of those with low-income and/or those in prison.

another focus was using completely off-the-shelf-parts.

• the need to pay for having a tank shipped is eliminated
• the need to pore over advanced construction manuals is eliminated
• the need for anything other than standard parts is eliminated
• the possibility of floating for the low-income / imprisoned has manifested

I learned from my Oasis experience. I owned one. And it is a true jewel. I cant say I’m happy with the rubber seal in the pump because epsom salt eats through it. But I learned from that and now know of other pumps (mag-drive, chemical) which work better.

I’m not trying to be mean, but let’s be realistic here.

 

 

 

No, but you are certainly welcome to communicate your dissatisfaction to me. I for one would appreciate it.

Live long and prosper,
Mark 

 

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From: x2012gart <x2012gart@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Open Source $2k Tank

Its Crude not super sci-fi IPod gen float, but down and dirty and looks like it gets the job done…

wondering what you all think..

I am seriously considering taking up where John Lilly left off, but I feel weird walking into a float center after munching 5 grams of mushrooms. Thinking this might be the way forward.

http://www.thedeepself.org/2011/02/version-2a/

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes I am sure somethings can be done to improve safety like boxing up the electrics.

 

 

 

the heaters are connected to a GFCI so there’s no risk of electrocution. And JBJ heaters come with a safety guard.

For instance the two halfs can just be glued together shut

 

 

 

the current design makes it easy to drain the tank and move the tank. You can use the top as the bottom and vice versa at will.

and a entry door cut out of the top, or some sort of hindge/level system.

 

 

 

I was lucky to run into a Lowe’s employee who suggested drawer glides:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/QEEzr-uBDNkzzYSHWx7Mzg?feat=directlink

those have been working for at least 20 floats beautifully.

The old link seen around the net for tank building plans are gone and this is all there is now. This is why I posted it here, not to argue for it’s use.

I guess Samadi is like twice the price of the Black Beauty,

 

 

 

well, the joy of building your own tank just cant be matched. I could never buy a commercial tank again unless there were a very specific reason.

but frankly the baggy liner isn’t as good as a solid surface.

 

 

 

yes, liners terrify me. I mean, I floated samadhi at Spacetime tanks and it was great. And they have been operating 26 years continuously there in Chi-town, probably all on samadhi. And no reports of electrocution. But the idea that there is just a liner between the water and a heater gives me the willies.

But I’ve been hashing over liner designs and thinking about it.

Oasis is nearly 4x the price, and it does appear to also have this liner.

 

 

 

I think Oasis and Samadhi are about the same price, new or used.

Sure a good 2nd hand tank would be cheaper, 1

 

 

 

until you have to pay them for parts/labor for a repair. The Black Beauty is 100% off the shelf.

going thru the archive there were some 5 floataway tanks going for incredible prices. With my budget it is probably best to wait for 2nd hand tank to hit the market.

 

 

 

may I ask where you are located? I build tanks and give them away to people who want to establish a branch of my religious order devoted to floatation. If you have the space, you have a business and tank coming your way. Just pay me a cut of your income from serving Recluses:
http://git.thedeepself.org/definitions/#recluse

Not sure but after that it appears that most tanks go over the $15k price level…ok it has some technical parts, but a top range automobile is the same price. am not in the USA, the european tank market seems to be the more Gucchi/Prada side of the tank market.

 

 

 

oh shipping definitely becomes a major issue for you.

Have seen big fiberglass tanks used for Fish Farming being sold from China very inexpensive, great deals on bulk epsom salts. Seems do-able, especially for the DIY inclined. Terrance’s contribution is a good foundation to work upon, as it covers the basic running parts and design extra features can be added.

 

 

 

THANK YOU! YOU ARE LOVED!

Its Crude not super sci-fi IPod gen float, but down and dirty and looks like it gets the job done…

 

 

 

I’m happy with the job it does – I’m the inventor of the tank you are referring to. I’ve floated more than 40 times in it and am learning about passive heating systems along the way. I never would’ve succeeded with this tank if it weren’t for Tim Strudwick blazing a trail along this way. And of course I never would’ve met Tim Strudwick if it werent for Frank’s list.

wondering what you all think..

I am seriously considering taking up where John Lilly left off, but I feel weird walking into a float center after munching 5 grams of mushrooms.

 

 

 

Yes, commercial floatation and your urge for such personal exploration dont really jibe. But they meld well with my non-profit religious organization devoted to floatation – http://git.thedeepself.org/definitions/

Thinking this might be the way forward.

http://www.thedeepself.org/2011/02/version-2a/

 

 

 

Any questions about the design are welcome. I’m working on version 2b as we speak:

http://www.thedeepself.org/2011/03/version-2b/

I have put out a request to archive all homebrewed tank plans and we have yet to come up with such a centralized list of links. Because floatqa is migrating right now, it might be 2-4 weeks before we actually get up the list. My friend Glenn built his for rather cheap in a different way, but there are several indy tank makers active now.