tank plans – freetroy

Freetroy posted these instructions to the floattalk mailing list… also see http://groups.google.com/group/floatationtank/browse_thread/thread/c974a53d50616754

I’m doing my best to keep track of all open source free tank designs… so far, there is mine, don corsemeirs and freetroys…

The category tank plans should have them all.

 

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Abend-Impressionen – YouTube.

[thedeepself] John C. Lilly closes his physical life, 9/30/2011, 5:00 am

What a wonderful gift for our Planetside Trip. A completely self-propelled path to Emptiness. Devoid of any focus on Inner Light and Sound, hence my enjoyment of the tank only. But to have so much stripping away of self-defeating patterns available in one single device is simply amazing.

I'm happy that John C. Lilly sucked it up and continued at Caltech even when it got hard. I'm happy that he inquired about a way to reduce input to the brain so that a single thought could both occur and be measured, for it led to this wonderful device.

I'm amazed at his bravery in the use of psychedelics.

LLJCL

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Floating, Duh

Well, I tend to use the hottest tap water I can find to fill the tank, because the hotter the water, the easier the salt dissolves. Of course most tap water has chlorine in it. So when it comes to chlorine, the float community is divided. Tim Strudwick is big on chlorine. Kane Mantyla and myself and many others are against it. But it's easier, so I just use tap water. I dont think H202 offsets it. Of course, you could look into whole house filtration. But this is more a general question, so it would benefit the community to (re)ask it at floatqa.com

Yeah I was aware of the same thing during my return to floating. Floating definitely peels off layer after layer of tension. It also makes it easy to tune into the "inner sound", which is my meditation/spirituality path. But that's another good general question for floatqa… I check there at least once a week.

There are certainly more direct systems for working with human body use – Alexander Technique, Feldenkrais, Balance Institute, Rolfing, etc. I guess it depends on what floats your boat 🙂

— Terrence

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Anthony wrote:

Terrence,
 
For supplements (although I'm sure you have good resources), I've found Organic India (www.organicindiausa.com) to carry high quality Ayurvedic herbs with great customer service. For pretty much everything else, Vitacost (www.vitacost.com) carries it. They have grown over the years that I've used them and have become a bit more commercial – I'm no longer sure how their prices stack up against the competition (but always free or $5 shipping is a plus). Regardless, it all adds up $$ wise pretty fast. My "problem" is perhaps taking too many supplements. I need to study more to see which ones play off of each other and which ones mask the other's effects.
 
Anyway, thanks for the links. These are all great resources. It's good to know there are like minded people out there trying to achieve similar goals with their life experience. I believe the next year will bring even more people around, as consciousness of our general population elevates.
 
I suppose I'm set to order everything. One question that I didn't see asked while browsing the Q&A – is regular tap water okay to fill the tank with? It seems the added chemicals would cause a problem unless filtered. Or does the H2O2 help to offset this?
From what I can tell, you're a pretty heavy computer user yourself. My neck and trapezius are always tense, whether I'm aware of it or not. I certainly was super aware of this during my first float. And when I thought I had relaxed, I discovered another layer of tension. Do you find floating to provide somewhat lasting relief – or at least, an awareness of how you're carrying yourself?
 
 
Thanks again for your time and have a good evening!
 
 
Anthony

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Terrence Brannon <thequietcenter@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Anthony,

This is a link to my teacher's tuning forks class info: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/A-Message-from-Order-of-the-Blue-Star.html?soid=1104773211478&aid=K0k4i6HiR2c

I tried the pondmaster but it didnt seem to do much. A combined system that does all the pump and filter is attractive, but it didnt seem to be getting any debris.

Thanks for the compliment on laying it out precisely. I should've done a youtube video going over the design too. I cant remember how much salt I used. I bought 1000 pounds. And about 4-6 months later, I bought about 500 pounds just to keep stocked but that should last for well over a year since its mainly just me floating.

That sounds like a good price. They are pretty unwieldy but not heavy. I have moved them in and out of the float room by myself (not without a bit of drama, but I've always managed to do all my tank stuff by myself 🙂

Did I point you to the general site for float questions – http://www.floatqa.com/
And we have a group for metaphysical floatation tank discussion too – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thedeepself/
And of course there's the big kahuna – http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/floattalk/

Hmm I wouldnt say that I maintain it throughout the day very much. But that's because I'm an inconsistent floater who does it only when I feel like it instead of everyday. Removing stress theoretically could be as easy as taking Holy Basil or Rhodiola, so they break down cortisol (the stress hormone). I'm actually getting more focused on supplements because of my tuning forks teacher.

— Terrence

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Anthony wrote:

Terrence,
 
Thanks for the quick and thorough reply (delayed response, I think not). Unless you're coming up to Palm Bay in September of next year, I still have a little planning to do before any action is underway! It's just a thought at the moment, but that's a start. And action, technically. The tuning forks are interesting. My mom has become very active in using them within the past year, and has several sets. One of the perks of going to visit!
 
That's an extensive pumping system. So do you no longer recommend the one listed in your store (the Pumpmaster), or did you even get a chance to use that one before switching to hydrogen peroxide? I fully agree that an inside tank is preferable to one left outside and exposed to the elements. I have just the spot for it inside, too, but was trying to compromise of course! I find it hard to believe that so few have contacted you about your design. Or easy, really, because you do lay everything out pretty concisely. Oh yeah, and was it about 750lbs of salt you put in initially?
 
I just got a shipping quote for the two containment tanks – $260 shipped or $210 for local pickup. Yikes! It is what it is though, and still cheaper than the alternative.
 
Thank you for extending your personal number and allowing my learning experience to be part of your blog. If it's easy enough to do so, can you remove my last name and email from the post? Merely to maintain privacy, for what that's worth.
 
 
Do you find that, with increased floating, the sense of stillness attained during the process is maintained throughout your waking day?
 
Anthony

 

Floating, Duh

Hi Anthony,

This is a link to my teacher's tuning forks class info: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/A-Message-from-Order-of-the-Blue-Star.html?soid=1104773211478&aid=K0k4i6HiR2c

I tried the pondmaster but it didnt seem to do much. A combined system that does all the pump and filter is attractive, but it didnt seem to be getting any debris.

Thanks for the compliment on laying it out precisely. I should've done a youtube video going over the design too. I cant remember how much salt I used. I bought 1000 pounds. And about 4-6 months later, I bought about 500 pounds just to keep stocked but that should last for well over a year since its mainly just me floating.

That sounds like a good price. They are pretty unwieldy but not heavy. I have moved them in and out of the float room by myself (not without a bit of drama, but I've always managed to do all my tank stuff by myself 🙂

Did I point you to the general site for float questions – http://www.floatqa.com/
And we have a group for metaphysical floatation tank discussion too – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thedeepself/
And of course there's the big kahuna – http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/floattalk/

Hmm I wouldnt say that I maintain it throughout the day very much. But that's because I'm an inconsistent floater who does it only when I feel like it instead of everyday. Removing stress theoretically could be as easy as taking Holy Basil or Rhodiola, so they break down cortisol (the stress hormone). I'm actually getting more focused on supplements because of my tuning forks teacher.

— Terrence

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Anthony wrote:

Terrence,
 
Thanks for the quick and thorough reply (delayed response, I think not). Unless you're coming up to Palm Bay in September of next year, I still have a little planning to do before any action is underway! It's just a thought at the moment, but that's a start. And action, technically. The tuning forks are interesting. My mom has become very active in using them within the past year, and has several sets. One of the perks of going to visit!
 
That's an extensive pumping system. So do you no longer recommend the one listed in your store (the Pumpmaster), or did you even get a chance to use that one before switching to hydrogen peroxide? I fully agree that an inside tank is preferable to one left outside and exposed to the elements. I have just the spot for it inside, too, but was trying to compromise of course! I find it hard to believe that so few have contacted you about your design. Or easy, really, because you do lay everything out pretty concisely. Oh yeah, and was it about 750lbs of salt you put in initially?
 
I just got a shipping quote for the two containment tanks – $260 shipped or $210 for local pickup. Yikes! It is what it is though, and still cheaper than the alternative.
 
Thank you for extending your personal number and allowing my learning experience to be part of your blog. If it's easy enough to do so, can you remove my last name and email from the post? Merely to maintain privacy, for what that's worth.
 
 
Do you find that, with increased floating, the sense of stillness attained during the process is maintained throughout your waking day?
 
Anthony

 

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Hi Anthony,

Sorry for the delayed response. I'm happy that you plan to open up a float center in Orlando. I will be coming up that way for a course on tuning forks in Palm Bay, FL on Sat Sept 21, so I could possibly pop by. Yes, I just got out of my version 2a tank and I'm happy with it as a cheap floatation tank — a cheap floatation tank is invaluable because floatation is so good for you. I think this pump/filter system would have been good:
http://www.thedeepself.org/2011/05/i-got-my-pump-and-filter-for-my-floatation-tank-today/

I own it and it is completely unopened. I personally just use hydrogen peroxide these days, because I've been too lazy to setup that pump filter system.

As far as piping, with my tank design, you would be setting up piping that would be manually placed in and out of the tank — this design is very waterproof – no chances of leaky piping ,etc. Just a view L-joints from home depot and you would be good to go. That's all theoretical though, since I just use hydrogen peroxide and nothing else.

You could have the heaters on, and then you could float for a longer time without noticeable temperature change. I tend to float 1-2 hours with no heater on and no problems. And once I did 7.5 hours with no heater on during the float – it depends on how internal you go. Yes, the GFCI does prevent shock guard theoretically, but one thing I've learned in the tank is that your deepest thought patterns become real realities and more than once I've mocked up an entire electrocution scenario just based on my fears. So I simply play it safe and unplug everything. Some sensitive people say they can feel the electromagnetic interference of the heaters, but I tend to leave the physical plane when I float, so that is not much of an issue with me.

Well you have a bathtub inside so why not a float tank? But depending on the temperature, it might be hard to deal with winter if it gets cold because your heaters would be fighting against that. and would the outside area be safe for electrical wiring?

This is actually the 2nd question I got about my design. The 2nd in about 4 months.

During the week after 6:30pm, feel free to call 818-359-0893 with questions. On the weekend, anytime is fine.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Anthony Chetta <anthonychetta@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Terrance, Hope all is well with you man. I pulled up your blog the other night and appreciate your insight and time. I just got back from AZ for work and had the privilege of floating (the place was actually less than ten minutes from my hotel). Although I’ve wanted to float for some time, there’s no facility located in Orlando. Seems odd, right? I’ll have to open one. Anyway, I’m on to building my own tank to start with, and have reviewed your version 2a instructions. Good stuff! I’m assuming you yourself still float in a beefed up v2a tank? In that regard, I have a few questions if you don’t mind! – So do you still recommend that same equipment, or have you found better since (pump specifically)? – What kind of piping do I need? I’m not familiar with how to set these pumps up (actually built a water-cooled PC a while ago, I’m assuming similar idea). – And is the reason for not having the heaters on while floating because of noise? Because the shockguard eliminates any potential water/electricity issues, right? – How much salt do you use? I’m hearing 750lbs+ is standard. – Also, since I’m living with my girlfriend in a house her parents own – she suggested placing this outside! Any potential downside to this that you can think of? Humidity, water overheating (you know, FL heat)? Obviously I’d have to pick a quiet spot away from a/c units, pool pumps, etc. Thank you for your time, I’m sure you get a lot of the same questions often! Anthony

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oral holding patterns released by floatation

It seems that you only value floating when you deprive yourself of it. Today, was apparently uneventful. Tension after tension melted time and again, almost imperceptibly. Then I noticed I was having debates with my boss. I realized my mouth was releasing held patterns of tension that had been locked in. 

Floating is quite something else.

surreal experience

My work in [Christopher Tims]{http://www.ChristopherTims.com) mystery
school is starting to pay off. I entered the tank and began to
relax. Funny how the tank is the only thing on earth you enter and
learn to relax more and more. I suppose other things have this to some
extent – massage for instance.

# Who's there

But anyway, at some point, I had some extended flying going on. Then I
came to "waking state" and was ready to leave the tank. I heard some
sort of doorbell start singing a song (and I dont own one like
that). My partner went to the door to see who it was. I said "let's
really see who it is" and I exploded through the top of the tank and
shot up 50 feet in the air to observe the higher self of the
visitor. The explosion was accompanied by a high-pitched sound kind of
like people being beamed up in Star Trek.

# Operate bus idependently to find part

Eventually, I found myself on a bus and realized I needed some
hardware parts. I opened a panel and found some independant foot
pedals and started controlling a vehicle for myself. I saw "Hurd Ave"
but knew that was a red herring. I realized I really needed to know
exactly what parts I wanted before calling the store for directions
and tried to get settled. At that point "Hurd St." showed up and I
realized I had found my destination.

# front and back

So I'm at this office/rooming house and one of the live-in girls says
"would you please copy this on the Canon front-and-back because I'm
not getting any exercise and these are positions you can dance to and
do while you are doing normal things. So you can stay in shape." Well,
I take the paper, but have to go home to find my speech? The
proprietor has a funny look on her face. She thought I said "speed"
and that I was a drug addict. I feared she would search the whole
place and find my legal psychedelics. And then the cops would escalate
the legal psychedelics into something illegal even though it
wasnt. But I would have my camera on them the whole time they were
cooking something up.

# the parrot

Before I can get back downstairs, the lady comes up and tells me about
a parrot who can bark out the exercise instructions. I look out the
window and see a colorful parrot with a blonde top. Well I say he
looks nice. Then I see a blonde-hair man with white skin shimmying up
a pole like a gorilla. He looks like half an ape with the thicker arms
and body. And I see a human head. The human is having casual
off-the-cuff conversation with the apeman in the tree. I come over to
look and realize the man is 3-stories tall. He walks away. The upper
body from head to hips is normal size. But the legs are super
long. Like the ones you see in a circus. He walks over to a group of
people getting ready for dance practice.

Shaquille O'Neal is there and they start dancing. The tall-tall man
simply walks about, not joining them.