The Deep Self

On 4/10/2011 7:33 PM, Kanefire wrote:

 

I am curious if anyone here has heard of the emerging body of knowledge in trans-personal psychology called “Flow State”?

I have two psychologist (one working on her dissertation about flow state) who have talked about this field and it interests me greatly and I see an intersection with floatation. As I understand it, Flow State is a state of effortless living where situations organize themselves so the the subject simply lives in highly synchronistic states.

John Lilly had some discoveries on Coincidence Control (by your terminology, control of coincidences would be synchronicity). He mentioned numerous coincidence control organizations that he directly discovered via floatation.

And yes, there is the odd paradox that success and healing come to the body that has relaxed and dropped fixation on that body. James Braha wrote about this here: http://www.jamesbraha.com/dialogues.html

The Bible states to seek the Kingdom of God and all else shall follow. So instead of going for the Lamborghini and smoking hot supermodel, you focus above the body on God and before you know it, you have the lamborghini but with much less attachment for it.

So I wouldnt call Flow State an emerging body of knowledge at all.

I have experienced this to a large degree and am pretty sure it has to do with meditation/floatation. I define them as statistical improbabilities occurring regularly.

To identify an event as improbable is a function of a recording mind. To note their regularity is further mental recording. Most such recording is done via a consciousness strongly identified with a single Human Biological Machine, to use EJ Gold’s terminology (grin).

There are certainly other viewpoints on how things happen. In our Western culture our strong individualism makes us focused on being, doing, having, and controlling as a separate isolated entity. In the East, the community minded viewpoint of the non-enlightened as well as the non-linear non-localized mind of the enlightened are completely different from our linear cause-effect perspective.

An example of this state is the old kung fu movies where the master drops a coin and leans over to pick it up. As he is leaning over, the Chinese star just barely misses his head. He then sees a friend and waves and his hand waving blocks an attacker.

Yes, as you wrote in “The Abundance Matrix” – http://www.floatmatrix.com/sf-ca/ebooks/the-abundance-matrix.pdf
“good luck, bad luck, who knows?”

An example more pertinent to floatation, is actually at the end of the floatation episode of The Simpsons (Season 10 Episode 16 “Make Room for Lisa”). Homer takes Lisa to a crash derby after a float. While sitting in the stands, Homer leans over and a car part just barely misses his head.

But will a float session save him the Reaper? When the bell tolls, will 1000 pounds of epsom salt heated to 93.5 deg F lead to a high-tech passover? Physical immortality? Ego-centered success is just a much a form of suffering as ego-centered defeat. But we continue to evolve technically and perhaps one day we will have our cake and eat it too.
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Has anyone else had any of these experiences?

I’ve had brief glimpses of pan-determinism – http://spiritologie.eu/index.php?id=45

By induction and review of the metaphysical literature, other consciousnesses are even more broad, operating two machines, two planets, two universes, non-physical planes, etc. In other words, if the personal mind, or a vast and powerful as the universal mind with the Akashic Records were the prime creator, then mind, prana and physical body are where one should look for answers. However if there are planes of consciousness / body layers prior to and creator of those planes of consciousness, then one might realize and operate from these levels instead of continuing to speak as if the mental meat puppet could truly do/think/know anything. But then how could you soak up funds from other limited consciousnesses? (grin)

Well, you are doing a good job. The merging of mental activity with the awareness of the body is nothing you can force, but you can certainly notice it after a tank session.

Amazing how so much gets done via a tank sleep with absolutely no doing other than making sure the head-neck area is full relaxed.

The future prospects of continued “practice” are most enticing! Thank goodness I did not chase God As Money and leave my home with floatation tank. My bank account moans but my soul soars!

ultra efficient – you get a full nights sleep (tonight was a full nightmare. “oh my god he’s got a knife and he thinks his religion is the greatest. he’s hiding behind my mobile home…” I woke up and my heart was thudding. Then laid down for some more.

then you shower. in just 2-3 hours, you have a deep restful sleep and you’re showered for the next day. just a few more hours of shut-eye and you’re ready for all the activities of the next day, fully hydrated, rested and cleaned.

No visuals today? No problem. I went in exhausted and came out refreshed and clean. Keep plugging away at it. It can only get better.

It’s amazing when your brain has a full storyline cranking out and YOU and your awareness are pointed elsewhere. Sometimes you get full lucidity with a tank sleep session, other times, the dreams runs alongside your pure awareness and your body, making 3 things for the trip.

The effects are also noticeable once you leave the tank.

To maintain the most awareness of the dream state and perhaps the other inner states listed in “The Deep Self” tank sleep is recommended… I just finished 1 hour of tank sleep where I had no physical interference during the entirety of a scenario.I feel like I had a full nights sleep after only 2 hours of floating.

It was only Stage 2 of Lilly’s 10 (simulating a body and simulating an external reality), but the lucidity of the dream and the ability to actually remember phrases and deeply feel mental emotions was much greater than when my body is fighting with planetside beds, temperature, mosquitos, clothes, etc. Everything was much smoother with fewer interruptions.

I dont think I will ever have a float as weird as the one I just did.I spent the morning at Sant Mat satsang then drove out to the nature preserve to look at alligators and to watch people fish. I got back home and did a few sun salutations and then made haste for my tank. I placed my attention on the pineal gland and before I knew it, I was having a 3-dimensional experience, conversations and everything.

Near the end, I was in this hallway and my mom said I would probably be getting a Caesarean section for *my* pregnancy. I started thinking I would go home because I would be bored in a hospital all night and the next day. I just hoped I would be able to drive myself to the hospital if I went into labor. I also could visualize the hospital as I thought about the boredom. It looked more like a senior care center with the large cushiony bed and dingy yellow curtains which filtered out so much sun that the room was dark.

I began to worry about the statistics for such a procedure. I began to wonder why people would take bodies and be so brave to risk death. I thought of my former room-mates daughter who gave birth even though she was a risk.

I could see my stomach and it was about like it is planetside – somewhat bulging but this time pregnancy was the cause not diet.

When I recovered from the float, the tank water was quite cold – I was so far into my mind trip that I was not aware of the inclement water temperature!

I forgot a very signicant part of this experience. The very first thing that happened before the teaching started is I saw some sort of star out of the corner of my eye that looked similar to the one here on the webpage of The Order of the Blue Star:http://www.soundhealing.org/

On 4/7/2011 3:29 PM, Terrence Brannon wrote:
> This is a long post because so much has happened in the past few hours.
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> # cops
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> I took my friend to do a massage at a hotel at 1am. I laid down to > sleep and a strong feeling that I was about to be attacked surfaced. I > ignored it, but it came back again, strongly. So I looked around and > decided maybe I should move to an area a little less secluded. Too > late! A cop started approaching me started asking for id and wanted to > search my car for drugs and I refused. Then a backup came and > threatened to bring out a police dog and sniff for drugs and any hint > of drugs would lead to 3 days in jail. I again refused. This went on > for awhile until they finally left.
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> At times, I would try to radiate loving-kindness. At other times I > would listen for the inner sound. One thing I never did was take full > responsibility for the creation. One year of causal plane training > with Spiritologie and I’m still acting like a victim.
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> # inner light
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> So anyway, I climb into my tank for stress release right after me and > my friend get home. Then the next day I receive some info on an inner > light technique that actually works:
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> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~inner/
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> I tried it a few times and enjoyed the resulting visuals. Then I was > still stressed so I decided to jump back into the tank. I did forget > to turn everything off so the heaters were running the whole time (grin).
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> # tank
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> So the tank session just led to deep deep sleep for about 2 hours. And > as soon as I came awake I listened for the inner sound (as taught by > Christopher Tims – http://www.soundhealing.org/) and caught it. At > that point a whirling torus of signs and symbols began to unfold in > front of my eyes. And none of it was created – I simply had to tune > into the sound.
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> I dont know how successful I would’ve been with this technique On > Land. I’m certain that the Inner Sound alone is all you need, but > these other training wheels sure are nice.
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“Simulations of God” John Lilly.

I dont think he ever really defined God in this text, but I think a good definition would be: “that which you must align with or suffer punishment”

Now, he discusses numerous potential Gods and in the appendix lists numerous other candidate ones to explore (such as Love).

I’m currently being forced to praise God as Money having spat in his/her/its face for the last 15 months. Since Jan 2010 (15 months ago), I have only worked 6 total months, living off savings and “doing what I want”.

However, the savings are exhausted and my escape from God is quickly coming to a close. Because there is little lucrative work in my area, I am forced to flee South Florida in the name of God.

How odd: the Bible says that money is a curse and to flee it. But that is a different simulation of God. My tax return, student loan, and monthly bills are a much larger and powerful God at the moment.

I am shameless. I will testify in the name of the Lord My Savior, the almighty dollar bill. I will stop at nothing to commune with the Lord My God. Distance is no issue to pursue my savior.